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unless you look in here (the lounge) and notice that theirs no general community spirit, no one really laughing, joking nor spending time with eachother
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Well it was like that all the time, and unfortunatelly that's a thing, i cannot code into
as for vb-g, it's not that active personally i'd say it's between vbt and vb.org, but regarding the fact, that there are way less germans than all nations in completeness, that's not really surprising