[JohnK]

Originally Posted by Velocd

Heh, but I'm sure most of those template hacks are never released on vBulletin.org, but probably vBulletinTemplates.com or elsewhere.

But the fact that they are asking here demonstrates that the don't understand the distinction. I haven't noticed anyone being told "this just needs a template modification so go to vbulletintemplates.com"

I'm just voicing the rules. Personally, if I could have it, I'd allow template modifications to be released as hacks, as long as the templates contain conditionals, and the conditionals used are significant in their purpose, or there are enough of them. Conditionals, like PHP, are logic, not presentation that is HTML.

I agree with you. I quite accept that under the current rules my post shouldn't have been here. Like I said "My mistake"!

As I understand it, the purpose of vbulletin.org is to help people who want to change the way that their forums work. From what I have seen the majority of these people can't code php, don't understand the power of VB template conditionals, and may not even know how to write html! There is no chance that they will know whether a proposed modification can be done with template conditions or requires a php hack.

Pre VB2 the definition of a hack as requiring a php edit was sound, but it's now out of date IMHO. Much better now to look at what a modification does rather than how it does it.

I would suggest that vbulletin.org should be for changes to how VB works, and vbulletintemplates.com should be for changes to how it looks.

Anyway that's my bit said and I am beginning to repeat myself! It's not my site and there may be good reasons to keep it the way it is. Might be worth some thought from those at the top though . . .

Cheers
John