[13th_Disciple]

community == atmosphere.. not attitude.. too much attitude here from some folks.. and others, who offer somewhat valid comments towards users asking for help sometimes end up acting like an ass the other 99% of the time..

the site looks good to me.. i ain't a stylist, per se.. but it's a bought style and it looks nice as long as it won't be found anywhere else..

the lockdown hack and vbhosting hack are probably what will influence my registering.. i have been there a couple of times to watch the site.. and it is steadily growing..

also, people speak of "all these hacking sites".. as if they are concerned they will detract from vb.org, yet they expressly support one of these sites in particular, evb.org.. because of that, it is a truly irritating hypocracy that flows through the veins of a ton of folks here.. i just renewed my license for one more year.. i can assure Jelsoft, with 100% certainty, it is NOT because of helpful people, it is not because of the community involved with vb.org.. it is solely because of the software itself.. the community here sux these days.. and the attitude, and atmosphere, here, detracts directly from what the software promotes as it's main claim.. instant community.. i never noticed hostility in the banner or on the jelsoft/vb.com site.. i reckon that's a between the lines kind of read..

i will say though, folks wanted to know a way to change that atmosphere around here in a thread within the forums under site suggestions, i think it was.. i gave a decent answer, an yet no one would even reply to the idea.. even to say it is not an option.. i reckon sometimes it's easier to ignore than it is to deal with something.. i may not have been a member here for very long, but i can asure you, it is not a place where i recommend hanging out.. it is only a place i recommend for downloading hacks and leaving..

of all of the hacks i have ever used and even so much as asked questions on, it is NTLDR that has helped me to understand what i needed to understand.. and it has only been NTLDR and his hack that has kept me using vBulletin this long.. the forums software is great.. the attitude behind those claiming community and support behind the idea suck..