Ok, ok, let's call a truce here. All I was stating was that the hackers that do supply code here ask nothing in return but a little appreciation and consideration for all of their efforts. Not just until a new version comes out when they're hacks are no longer needed. The hack count is just a small sign of respect and appreciation for a job well done and I don't think it's right to take that away from them because it makes it easier on you, the member, to read a list. Some of these hacks were not real easy to write and most good hackers won't complain about it so why should anyone else? If we could all do a little less complaining about the unimportant things and show a litle more appreciation for what's at hand, the site would run a lot smoother and people would be a lot happier. Don't you agree?