thanks i thought it was
anyhow i have had to use the idea of another installer as the one that i am trying to convert needed to much work so i started from scratch with a vb3 installer that (farnath and bane made... and yes i am in the process of asking them for permission to use)
but it has been a huge port and is taking a long time
oh by the way its the photopost - vbtemplates hack i am porting should be done by tomoz night