[SaintDog]

Steve, I have e-mailed you, while my IP is not dynamic in a sense like AOL, it is dynamic in a sense that it does change every few days to a week (sometimes a month) just as that is how Charter Communitcations seems to do such.

I can sypathize with you and the rest of the vBulletin Team as I am on the hosting side of things and know that surpressing a DoS or DDoS is not an easy thing to do, especiall when you are not at the DC and have little control over your hardware and the network it is connnected to.

Guys, please understand that Steve is not located at the DC, neither is any of the vBulletin team more than likely. While software firewalls can be installed, they do not match up to hardware firewalls and that CANNOT be installed without being at the datacenter, even at that a firewall cannot block everything incoming and outgoing, regardless of how it is built or how hard it may try.

DoS and DDoS is something that any popular website, even those that do not even receive 10% of the traffic will experience them. Complaining about it in this thread or forum, even to Steve and the rest of the staff is NOT going to get you anywhere anytime soon or at all.

Do you honestly think that moaning over the site being down is going to make it magically pop back up just so you can be happy? I don't honestly think so, but you are free to keep trying until you set one off and are banned for something you should not have said (I can't control the banning, but imagine steve and others can). While this may be a forceful way to get you all to realize they can do little other than to keep in touch with the DC, it may just have to be done if they are willing to go that far.

I own a hosting company, run vBulletinTemplates.com, was a moderator here, and have experienced my share of DoS, DDoS, downtimes, problems, errors and so forth and never in my life have I seen such a problem with something that cannot be controled physically by someone who leases, rents or has otherwise sent a server into a DC for hosting.

Now this is not directed to everyone, so please understand. I may be venting off since I am a host as well and can consider the fact that there is little that can be done, but honestly, come on, get a grip.

I cannot download vBulletin either, add me to the list, but I am dealing with it. YES, I have customers and yes they download and install it as well, more than likely some are here reading this thread too as with you, but do you seem them blaming an agreement or the vBulletin staff because they cannot download the software.

Correct me if I am wrong, but unlimited is not stated ANYWHERE in the contract/agreement as being 24/7/365 days a year without any interuptions, problems, faults, or restrictions nor does it state their liability for such....want to know why it is not there? Because problems happen, things happen and people deal with them as some of you need to as well.

Maybe I will be flamed for this post, maybe not, but I feel Steve and the rest of the vBulletin team will agree and possible have said (may have mis-read) but this whining and arguing is not getting you anywhere.