[SatMan2028]

I downloaded the beta 5 and think it's great. I don't use hacks but I do use one add on and that's the login on a non-vb page. The people here and at vbulletin.com have always been great with helping out. I commend you on your service...

Now what I don't understand is the position you are taking on not releasing hacks and add on's for vb3. Hacking a beta version is truely a bad idea. That I'll go with. On the other hand, add on's such as a non-vb page login, really has nothing to do with code modifications. Vbulletin.com even confirmed that no additional changes will be made to the login code of vb3. The whole point of releasing a beta version is to test it out and report bugs and such or was is just to stop us from asking about it? VB3 is great and I'll be the first to admit it. I'd even like to move it from my test board to my public board and actually see how it does. But without some sort of global permissions for my non vb pages I just can't do it. If I took down all of my non vb pages and had just the vb3 forums the members would find somewhere else to go.

In short, if they are gonna release a beta, then lets test it. If they are gonna release a demo, which is all I really have now, then lets call it that and be done with it.