it seems many things which do not have anything in
common are in what you say.
Pacifism does not mean being inactive. Going to a front
whatever front it may be whith your own words as your
only weapon and comming back with a victory is what i call
helping my wife and girls to live in a less dangerous world.
I can fight for freedom, i can fight for the lives of the ones i care
for, i can fight for... err.... even nothing, pacifists too are stupid
sometimes

.
But fighting and War are not the same thing ! War is inhuman
war is an enormous lie, war is where you fight without really
knowing why...
If i had to live what my grand parents lived, i know i would
be as brave as they tought me. But the iraqi case is something
else : no one can say for sure that hussein is related in any
way to the 11th of september's tragedy.
And for the acts of nature, i agree with you. Sure war is
an act of nature, stupidity too, even rape... But since we
human beings rule that poor earth, maybe we could think
a little bit further and try to use our little trip on this earth
to stop being so 'natural' and to prepare for our kids
an earth where US would not create more than 40% of
the global polution for less than 2% of the population.
An earth where everything wouldn't be doomed since US
refused to sign the kyoto 'accord' (dont know the english word).
All is not white all is not black, but death is always the end,
and i dont want to be the one who kills.
~~edit~~
@ xenon : you are playing with words there

, 'cold war' is
not what we are calling a war in that thread... Cold war is
the longest peacefull period of the 20th century, and as you
pointed, it is in that time that man put his foot on the moon.
So you gave me an argument : it is not war that makes science
go faster, it is only the will of a group to be better than the other.
And do you think it can't happen in peacefull time ? I think
it does happen and more often than in time of war
Once again peace and love to all and to the ones you care for

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[high]* p0s3id0n is going to smoke a joint if you continue

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