[okrogius]

first i have to say that i own two vbulletins one of which i am co-webmaster at. I am quite frankly disgusted with vbulletin right now and i will surely be converting to another bulletin board when each term is up respectively.

- you guys speak about the great customer support when you buy a vbulletin. this is completely false! you can get the same support from a free boards official site just as much as you can get from vbulletin.com and .org.

there are things called support forms for a reason. use it. the forums are extras.

-Limitations on what you can put on your board also hinders many sites although you guys dont seem to enforce the rule that much considering ive seen some crazy stuff like marajuana forums listed. the potential of having your lisense revoked because of this is silly, id be damned if any vbulletin official would steal my hard earned money just because they interpret my content as illegal or against your terms of use. none of the other bulletin boards have such a stupid policy.

practically any decent forum software authors will not let you use their work for an illega purpose. and why would you care? you condone piracy like some preteens do?

-vbulletin.org. this place is a glorified "feature" of buying a vbulletin. there are plenty of hacks available for other boards and you can get them without any limitations whatsoever.

there are no limitations of any kind. of course you need to own vbulleitn to get hacks, if you don't own it you wouldn't need the hacks for it.

My biggest gripe is the registration of the domain the forums will be used in and vbulletins partnership with nukepirates.com. Users cant even put up a simple subdomain,redirector or move their board without nukepirates being on you like white is on rice. it also seems that explaining a simple redirector or forum move isnt good enough for both vbulletin and nukepirates. vbulletin is too lazy to even reply to a customers emails about the situation yet they reply very quick to inquiries about purchasing a vbulletin on their forums but wouldnt give me the the light of day on my problems and im a paying member. while on the other side i have nukepirates sending me warning letters almost daily and even ultametums via email and emails to my host wanting to shut down my forums.

You can put on a simple redirect as much as you want. You just can't install it in two public places with one license.

To me this is absolutely unforgivable and it is so in the business world. when you purchase a product you expect the support that they claim to give you. i have yet to see that in vbulletin in the time that i have purchased one. leave this as a warning for those who wish to purchase a vbulletin.