that works good for getting more words in one line, how about being able to make the box height, say 60 instead of 40 and adding more then one line of text to each fader box? I would like to have the box twice its normal height and be able to fit 4-5 rows of text per fader box as they cycle. one other question, where in the fader code is the rate of cycle? It looks liek it is about every 5 seconds or so but I want to change ti to about 10. thanks for the help on the widening part, that helped alot

...mauisun