[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by In Omnibus

Everything above may be perfectly accurate, however the question was why vB4 mods are so out of date, which can be answered without any mention whatsoever of vB5. vB4 is no longer being developed. There is no money in free modifications. Forums are no longer winning the popularity contest. They have been replaced by social media. The removal of the hooks in vB5 has nothing whatsoever to do with any of those things.

I purchased vB5 the day it was released so I am fully aware of its history. At some point either the product serves a person's needs or it doesn't and that person should seek an alternative. Complaining about history that can't be rewritten is pointless.

For the record, I am running an instance of vB5 right now and its works perfectly well for our purposes. Perhaps that's because I am not actively seeking things about which to complain. If we're going to allow people to derail conversations with complaints allow me to derail this one with compliments to the handful of people who have worked tirelessly to correct the vB5 product. The developers have spent countless hours fixing countless issues on a product I am sure they would never have released had it been their decision. Let's not pretend the decision was theirs. Wayne and the customer support team have dealt with a rash of angry customers the entire time, including but certainly not limited to myself once or twice.

Some of the people who made this product worth owning for the last 17 years have moved on. Those who are still around deserve more than to be the corporate whipping boys for decisions that weren't theirs to make. Customers deserve better than to have to sift through walls of the same complaints every time they attempt to use this site. Ergo, if the need to bring vB5 into the conversation is something one cannot avoid perhaps it could at least be done only in the interest of asking the question asked and not as a prelude to endless tangential nonsense that has nothing to do with the question.

If people ask why vB5 sucks (it doesn't but I digress) there are plenty of threads on that without creating more of them.

Why did Star Wars Episode II end? Because Episode III was released (well and because the credits rolled at the end lol). Sure the current vB4 lack of mods can be equated to vB5 coming along so we mentioned it. Why did Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secret of the Ooze sales decline? When TMNT III: Turtles in Time came out... Semantics!

@Other statement about not understanding API: Understand the API? There was NO documentation on it back then, none and the plugin system didn't exist until recently.

Anything that comes after the previous affects the current then becomes the new norm for a while but truth be told Cellarius pretty much summed up much of my reply in his before I could even login today . Remember though folks that much of us agree on many things we're simply voicing our opinion i.e. I agree with you now that vB5 is perfectly fine (imho) so we can't agree to disagree if we're in the same book, just a different page until we catch up to each other.