[Brad Padgett]

Originally Posted by Mark.B

Been discussed multiple times. It's not going to happen.

The aim of this forum is not to showcase new versions. That's the job of vbulletin.com.

The instance of vB3 used here is heavily customised by volunteers. Who's going to spend the huge numbers of unpaid man hours to rewrite all that, just to make it do what it already does perfectly well?

See THIS previous thread, though there are dozens more, and the answers will always be the same.

Yeah I guess you got a point if vbulletin.org has that many mods and additions to the site like you said.

I just think vb3 is getting older every day. You and the other vBulletin creators should actually put the work into it yourselves.

Not sure why the man hours have to be unpaid. vBulletin Solutions and Internet Brands should pay you guys to do it.

I assume the real winning voice in this is if your company would actually pay you to do it. If they weren't paying you I completely understand the logic in not wanting to redo it.

But the best mods would be created by a team of professionals like yourselves anyways. If it was for your own products site I can't really see why they wouldn't but I'll leave it at that.

Anyways I appreciate the responses.

Originally Posted by Mark.B

To be fair, those same add-ons were never made public for vB3 or vB4, and it didn't hurt the release rate.

Simple fact is, it's at least moderately difficult to create mods for vB5, by comparison, and so the mod market for it has never truly got going.

However, things are looking up - usage of vB5 is increasing, there's a rudimentary hook system back in place, and you have people like Glenn creating some interesting stuff, both free and paid, for vB5.

What would kickstart things a lot more would be if Cloud customers had access to install modifications - but I can't see how that could work.

I agree that things are looking up better than before. Your product is best on the back end of things in my opinion. Not to be-little the front end either.

That's another one of my beliefs. I've seen how different forum products respond to google and there really is a difference. On the back end of things vb5 seems to be extremely well made. I couldn't validate the statement because I don't understand the code like you all do. I only say it because of my experiences as a webmaster using it.

The real validator of that would be you all who actually made it however google responds to it much better than other forums that I've used and I can tell. I don't know when I'll make a new vBulletin 5 site but I have been trying to learn PHP and wanted to create my own modifications. Found a tutorial in vb.com blogs teaching you how to do it and might give it a try once I learn object oriented php. However I was also going to try and make styles.

I took TheXboxCloud down and it could be a year or 2 from now before I do any of this since it takes so much work but I'll see how it goes.

Was going to use my license as a demo forum or a support forum for my web design business I plan on starting.