[Bill Stuntz]

I hadn't, but I just tried changing my own editor options & didn't get what I want. Sorta WYSIWYG is better than NO WYSIWYG. And I DO want them to be able to easily bold/underline/InsertImage, etc. and see something resembling what they'll get. But the "standard" editor still shows too many tools that are totally unnecessary for simple posts. The fancier (especially new) users try to get, the more trouble they get into. I don't want to lock them out of the advanced tools, but I'd LIKE to present only the most useful tools for simple posts unless they choose to "Go Advanced." I'm a firm believer in the KISS principle. I'd like to make it as easy as possible to ask a simple question that probably includes a photo or 2. I want to minimize the distraction of too many tools that won't really improve their posts.

One example of my problem is that they often can't figure out how to insert photos. It was REALLY bad when the "Insert Image" icon was that weird thing that I FINALLY figured out was supposed to be PICTURE of a tree, and in THIS version of VB is a picture of mountain. Neither of those clearly expresses "photo-ness" in a 20x20 icon! I eventually figured out how to change the icon to a camera in the sprites.png file. And a camera DOES imply that it has SOMETHING to do with photos. And they CAN find that - if they're not distracted by all the other unnecessary tools. Take a look at the tool bar they see in the first screen shot in my first post. Then notice what they see (2nd screen shot) when they try to make their first post by creating a new thread. The camera is submerged in a sea of tools, most of which are useless to them - and the camera doesn't stand out. It's MUCH easier to find in the Quick Reply editor's simple toolbar.