[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Yes, you request it using Jira.
If you cannot be bothered, it wont happen, I thought that was pretty clear.

Paul when I replied by answering your question as to why I used your name initially - I meant to convey the reason I used your name initially, is the fact that you said what I bold and italicized in my last reply i.e. you said to request it be added which means use Jira, I asked to point out that despite you not saying submit to Jira directly - that's what it meant.

Myself being bothered has nothing to do with Jira submissions when I'm on family time - i.e. once you clock out you're off company time, on your own time and personal life should be kept separate or at least for most it is, you clock out you go home to your wife and kids etc.

So if I were to say: I reckon next time you go on vacation I can just comment and say that you since you can't be bothered (apparently and obviously it would be due to you being on vacation) that something "else" won't happen due to that.

^ Would that be fair to do to you? I don't feel it would be but that's not you, when I was saying (imo) it's meant to be taken with a grain of salt to a certain extent.

When it's Mozilla and it's an open source community then by all means have somewhere where people who love the software can help and submit requests and tickets etc and tell them that if they don't help it won't happen and eventually all will be lost, which would be true i.e. no income or free support so no Mozilla. I do not agree with having clients who pay for this software being asked to do so much on their own and in their own time however I see it as a useful tool but I don't like to see it used as a crutch so heavily. vBulletin is paid software and it's about time it started ACTING like it instead of just limping along on that crutch I mentioned.

Originally Posted by Paul M

How is the fact that I removed them (as instructed) four years ago relevant ?
You dont need to address comments at anyone specifically. There was completely no need at all to single out myself in that post.

Again I must go back to what I mentioned above, when you said what I bold and italicized it prompted me to reply, I was replying to this thread based on everyone else comments and primarily yours. If you say "just request it be added" or similar I'm going to assume every time you mean to submit a ticket through Jira and if you agree that is what your statement meant then I don't see why singling you out was a big deal? I meant to single you out but not in a negative way - instead to speak to the person who directly had dealings with it at the time and again, whose comment made prompted my post and were directly related to what I was saying - I did that yes, what did I do wrong? I just think you thought I was "targeting" you which was not the case at all, I don't mind clarifying ever so no worries .

Originally Posted by Paul M

Jump through hoops ! Are you real ? in the time it took to type your reply you could have logged several hook requests, creating a jira takes a minute or two at most.
Like so many you have spent more time complaining about why you wont do something than the time it would have took to actually do it.

Yes, hoops.

Login here, type up something that makes sense if it's not already obvious, pics or no pics, submit this here, mark it as this, flag it, vote it, watch it, keep an eye on it, raise cain when someone marks it as trivial, raise cain when months if not years later it still isn't marked as resolved... jump jump jumpity jump jump! I've already worked today, did my "time" and depsite time differences it's the same for you daily I'd guess.

I could say geesh in the time it took you to quote me, use /quote while you broke my reply into multiple quotes and replied to each aspect of it - you could have restored the entire hook system back to it's former glory, knowing full well it's not your place to do so, therefor it doesn't get done - Tomayto / Tomahto.

IB dont give nothing for something, you are just making silly statements now.

It's not silly when I took the time to specifically type (imo) meaning in my opinion - it was just my "humorous/ironic" opinion in reply to you quoting me, sorry for the confusion.

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Aye but hey my replies are quite long, not trying to invade fenderbob's thread. FB if you need any more info let us all know, we sorta started debating in here lol! Remember that the mods are going to slowly come back, we're already seeing new ones out since the re-introduction of the system. If you want to really customize and think and "Go" outside the box, vB4 seems like your best option until we see more free mods here on the org. If you've already went with 5 (directed @ anyone) and you're too far into it, then roll with it... it makes a great standard forum as you've read here today and the hooks system is back and will be improving as time goes on so if you've been missing a certain mod, it might return soon enough!