[TheLastSuperman]

Originally Posted by Paul M

Why are you directing that comment at me ?

1. I dont make the rules.
2. I dont work on vBulletin 5.

That said, the rule is there for a reason - all development is tracked in Jira, there has to be a central place, and thats it. So no Jira = it wont happen.

I directed it at you based on your last reply:

Originally Posted by Paul M

Thats exactly what its used for.
Its quite new in vb5 (prior to that you had the extensions system, which still works).
As far as hooks go, you may find they dont currently exist where you need them, but you can add them your self and then request they be added to the core.

How are you supposed to request something be added? Jira

*Also you were paid to remove the hooks or actually tasked with it correct? Whom should I address my comment to another staff member who was not involved in the removal in the least or someone who knows full and well what happened? I choose you Pikachu!

Originally Posted by Paul M

Developers are paid to develop, not sit and write Jira's for other people too lazy to do so.
You seem to be in the "I want something for nothing" brigade. You want a hook but are not going to put in the minute amount of effort to request it - because you're "not being paid a penny to submit anything". If thats how you want to be, that's fine, but dont moan about hooks not getting added.

Exactly! I develop for others, I expect the company to develop for their actual customers instead of making them jump through Jira hoops it's that simple! The Jira system is helpful yes but some things are common sense like re-introducing a system again i.e. it should be the same if not better than before. The fact that this particular issue brings up such controversy in a sense it just silly too! So we debate over a system now lacking when it once wasn't, it was removed/limited but now brought back half-rear ended at best! When you're going to re-introduce a system at least do it proper (directed at upper management).

I'll always be in the "I want something for nothing" brigade so long as vBulletin continues to be in the "Give them nothing for something" brigade (imo) and it's just that simple. I expect more from the company, always have and always will.