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Originally Posted by Zachery

The addons themselves didn't sell vBulletin directly, however kick ass forums running addons, or highly customized did.

This. When people want to set up forums, it's the forums they remember that guide their choice. Sure, 80% (reversing the 20% cited earlier) then discover modding is a bit of work and never do it, but I don't buy a correlation of 'finished product' with 'purchasing choice'.

Sorry to threadsurrect, but I'm at a cross-roads and have been doing some reading to see what the status of vb5 is. I've turned into That Guy who has a house of cards built on dependencies that have become restrictive.

I won't even lie and say that the current state of vb.org isn't a major factor.

What I'd like to see, what no one is getting right, is a great CMS. I use mediawiki heavily, but it's lack of granular permissions is holding me back. Yet, it's ability to template within and embed metadata allows for dynamic and formatted content that forums alone don't support.

Eventually, someone's going to get it right. Either a CMS with robust forum features, or a forum with robust CMS features. Or a full-fledged bridge.