[Bill Stuntz]

My profile is set to use the WYSIWYG editor. And the editors open with the 1-line toolbar for everything EXCEPT "New Thread" and "Send New Message". Those 2 editors act like every other version does AFTER I press "Go Advanced" - except that I HAVEN'T pressed "Go Advanced" I want to "Go SIMPLE" from the apparently pre-selected "Go Advanced" mode that ONLY the "New Thread" and "Send New Message" editor use by default.

Quick Reply, Reply to Thread, Reply to Post, Edit Post, & Reply with Quote, and reply to Private Message ALL come up by default in WYSIWYG with the 1-line simple toolbar and an available "Go Advanced" button. And THEY have a "Cancel" button, which is mysteriously missing from the the extra bells & whistles in the "Advanced" editors.

Why should those 2 versions of the editor come up in "Go Advanced" mode with the overly complex toolbars, when all the others come up with the simpler interface and a "Go Advanced" button that users can press if they actually want to use the extra tools? If the simpler interface is adequate for all the other uses, what makes the "New Thread" & "New PM" functions so special that they NEED the clutter of 40 or so extra tools that are very seldom used to be available by default? I doubt if even 20 of the 2,189 users who have used our MB in the last 30 days have used those extra tools. I only KNOW of about 5 users who routinely use any of those tools - 1 "normal" and about 4 admins/mods. I'm one of the 4 - and it annoys me that I can't make them go away. I'd much rather click "Go Advanced" when I NEED them, than put up with them cluttering up my screen when I don't need them.

I've had several people (including 2 moderators) ask why those two editors function differently from the others because they DO NOT want the extra tools. And they want me to "fix" the editors because they're too confusing and they NEVER use any of the extra tools anyway.

I can't find anything in any settings/options/profile/etc. that seem to cause those 2 to behave differently from all the others.