[Viruseater]

I've been using vbulletin for 14 years and never had a problem. it's been out for 2 years. I don't think it's a stretch under 99.99% of cases to not do that much looking.

plus it's not like i've even started yet. i just got it

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Originally Posted by cellarius

Just read the threads here and in the licensed customers feedback forum on vb.com. It is by no means just the hook system. vB5, after 2 years out (so much for it being "new"...) still misses tons of features vB had before (and the features present more often than not are badly designed, half-assed implementations). it is notorious for being a ressource hog and still painingly slow, and I won't even get started on code quality.

And I'm someone who never ever thought of abandoning vB.

So waht's the deal? i didn't even realize they sold?!?!? so the development roadmap changed? I swear I thought everyone was excited for 5? Then again I never migrate early like that, i always let everyone else do the bug working, and usually dont upgrade till there are 2 minor prs. but 2 YEARS LOL

seriously though, it bums me out. This is one platform that I always bragged about. How the code seemed clean (not pristine but it sure was better than a lot of stuff) and how flexible it got. The swing from 2 to 3 was huge. Then 3 to 4 well, Iam thinking I waited over a year for that one. 2 this time.

This souinds really familiar. i've been a project manager for 26 years, and dealing with vendors when things fall apart like this it is almost always one of two things.

1. company went broke
2. development heads leave and standards/procedures change

sigh. oh well, I'm sure I'll still enjoy working with it, just not as much as before. I always got exc cited when it was time to upgrad a major PR

I WILL say, the only negative thing that comes to mind, it didn't please me that I paid for 4 then in a 2 year span had to pay even more than that purchase, even after considering the 'upgrade' value. I did it based on my faith of the past decade and a half. I'm concerned a bit now. That part bugged me about the upgrade. I get a better discount with just a referal at lots of places. 11% discount for a current customer? wow. i remember thinking "Well, it IS vb, so they're banking on their reputation i'm sure' but i haven't been in the loop for several years. things certainly have changed.