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yeah i'm used to that now, that's why I didn't sound very excited about it being fixed in 5.1.5
i'm guessing 3-4 months and I bet you it still won't work, you watch.

just like the basic issue of when you log into vb5 control panel to do something, the "most ever users online" re-sets to zero, that was meant to fixed in 5.1.1 maybe .2 but it's still the same.

Thanks to everyone who helped anyway, I appreciate your time.

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