It my continuous effort to try and understand why it's working on only certain threads I have found something else, on the quick reply box "check message lenght" option whenever i click it and it shows the amount of characters it works. However, on some threads when I click it it doesn't work and at the bottom of IE it gives me "Error" where it would say loading (5 documents left) etc. Maybe this will shed some light on it for you gurus out there.