[katie hunter]

Originally Posted by Necrovaris

So just happens that the digitalpoint cookie spider, just happened by chance to spider a lot of vb sites that were going to convert to xenforo regardless?

As for your specific niches, I think you need to look harder. When you have companies like IGN, curse, sony, EA etc converting and using XenForo, people take notice

Are we now going to throw false facts just to make XF looks better? Really? :0) IGN does use XF but the others, doesn't use XF

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/categories/list.page EA
http://community.us.playstation.com/ Sony PlayStation

and so on. The way i see it and that is probably the truth, is that a bunch of coders who left VB are the ones constantly supporting XF and promoting it while downgrading VB, it also helps with their plugins sales over on XF but other than that, if you went to many regular customers, i doubt that they would enjoy XF more over VB, many are still using VB 4.x and waiting for 5.x to become stable and better. It just no matter how you guys turn it around, things aren't going to change all of a sudden. You can't change XF statistics --> Members: 52,209

What will be entertaining is when VB 5.x becomes better a year later and many will start upgrading, i know for a fact that those who left and code for XF will come back. Only days will prove it.