[katie hunter]

Originally Posted by Rich

I myself have been using vb for 12 years and purchased my first Xenforo license last week. I have been impressed so far. I really like the way things are laid out and organized in the admin panel, contrary to some of the posts I have read. As with any software, there will be a learning curve. I can tell you how to do almost anything, without looking, in the vbulletin acp. That came with time. (I absolutely hate the vb admincp and find it disorganized.) In a few months I know I will be able to do the same thing with xenforo. I really feel that vbulletin dropped the ball by allowing the issues with php5 and vb4 to take so long to resolve. (Still waiting....) I am running the latest STABLE version of php5 and had to hide errors and still need to remove duplicate posts . vBulletin just isn't what it use to be in my opinion. Xenforo offers a solution for those of us who are simply sick of how incompetent the devs for VB appear to be these days.

This isn't true by any means. I've seen Mike's and Kier's coding skills and when comparing VB to XF, VB wins right away and when it comes to requested features, they aren't up front about it. Test them.

Without comparing and contrasting the level of skills of both VB and XF dev team, i will leave this video for fun http://youtu.be/OsT0Sod377I

Seriously, making Mike and Kier sound legend in coding when most probably they aren't that super great, they are good coders but not super great nor that skilled to brag about it, else they should have not stayed with VB for 9 years.