[nhawk]

Originally Posted by JacquiiDesigns

Hope everyone's had or are in the midst of having a great weekend!


I'm no coder - but I think I understand what you're saying. And what you're saying is that XF is much more accessible in terms of coding modifications than vBulletin is...?

This is likely one reason code developers who were once quite active here at vB.org have left by the droves - wouldn't you think? Like with the vB 4 codebase changing between upgraded versions ever few months or so, breaking modifications.

From all appearances - vB 5 Connect has not bettered the situation at all. Example: A year after vB 5 hit the scene - there are only 46 modifications and 17 templates edited shared in the modifications area.

Have you coded anything for vB 5 Connect? If yes - Was the coding process a better experience with vB 4? If you haven't coded for vB 5 - why not?

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vB4 isn't bad for coding add-ons at all. But XF is IMO much easier. However like any software, you need to become familiar with what needs to be done. That applies to vB or XF.

I had coded two of my add-ons for vB5, but vB5 is so unstable that for a while there I would have to issue updates to my add-ons nearly every week with each change to vB5. That's not acceptable to me and I pulled my add-ons because of that. If vB5 stabilizes and becomes more server friendly, I will most likely re-work the add-ons and release them again.

For most of my clients, there are two reasons for changing from vB to XF.

1) vB5.. The ones that are changing just don't want to use it. Those that tested it removed it within 1 day from their servers because of the slowness and load it placed on their servers.

2) vB said they would not fix the multiple file upload problem with the flash uploader. When a user had to fix it, many of my clients felt that was unacceptable and pointed to where vB4 was going.

Now, I'm NOT on the XF bandwagon. I tried to get every client that is switching to stick with vB. But the tide is changing and to stay competitive I have to go with the flow and code for both vB and XF.

And people might ask how many clients can this guy have that it makes a difference? As a regular registered user on my site, you see 14 forums on my site. Each client has their own private forum to discuss their servers/sites with me. And as a result, I see 91 forums.

All but 2 of those clients have chosen to move away from vB. One of those moving is a big board with 1,000 visitors online at any given moment.

How can I have so many clients? I keep telling people to ignore my join date here. I've been around a VERY long time in the private sector. When I say a 'very long time', I mean one of my closest friends put the first entertainment related web site online. I've been around as long as, if not longer than him. I've been involved with vB modifications in the private sector since almost vB day #1.