[katie hunter]

Originally Posted by Barcham

I strongly disagree with a company charging for updates to the same version that you purchased. The only thing someone should be paying for is a complete upgrade to the next version of the software. Paying for incremental updates provides very little incentive to release a bug free product. Release a buggy program and then charge for the fix? I don't think so. For the price being charged, all updates should be included until the next version is released. I do not have to pay for updates to Microsoft Office or any other program and I would not pay for updates to a BBS software either.

I also like this policy more than the previous one. Also for existing customers for $199 to renew my license i get vb 4.x (which is why i renewed my license last year) and vb 5.x as well, and that wasn't bad.

To compare

Xenforo is for $140 for new customers + they are adding an enhanced search version for $50 , seriously ? Shouldn't this be part of the core feature, so Xenforo out of the box would actually cost anywhere from $190 - $250 , then you will most probably pay for mini addons to have vb default core features on Xenforo.

If i were XF, i would give my customers the option to use Sphinx Search (VB 5.x already has it built into their system, i think), it is the best out there http://sphinxsearch.com/ instead of saying Enhanced Search for extra. So you're giving me a forum with a not so great search function and you want me to buy the enhanced version for $50

XenForo Enhanced Search - $50*

An enhanced version of the XenForo search system, allowing higher quality results and faster searching for bigger installations.

XenForo Resource Manager - $60*

The XenForo Resource Manager is an add-on that allows you to manage files, downloads, and article-like content within your forum. Extension of support and updates is an additional $15 when you extend your XenForo license.

To summarize

For anyone else wondering: https://xenforo.com/purchase/xenforo-details

XenForo 1-Year Extension - $40, additional cost with add-ons
XenForo Resource Manager - $60 (extension $15)
XenForo Enhanced Search - $50 (extension $10)

Do you really love this as well? You're actually forced to renew for a higher price if you bought an addon and later decided that you won't use it and the only way to get rid of it is by losing it and removing it so you're not forced to renew for a higher price. So you end up losing the entire addon price you originally paid for. So like throwing your money away.

Jeremy a XF staff
No, once you've bought an add-on the renewal increases. You can't renew just XenForo.

Brogan a XF Staff
You can have the add-on removed from your license, but you would need to purchase it again if you want to use it in the future.

Vs.

Vbulletin http://www.vbulletin.com/en/purchases

New customers pay $249 so to round $250 but you get to download VB 5.x , 4.x and 3.x and if you don't like VB 5.x, VB 4.x is there with so many features and wait and see how VB 6.x will look.

Then you don't have to pay yearly like $50 to renew your license, rather you pay a one time fee for the next version and company do know if the next version doesn't improve so well, it won't sell good, so they have to improve it.

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XF Staff are extremely intimated by my posts. My account was restricted in a way that all my posts and topics gets moderator, but Today i found out that i can't

1. Pm my friends
2. Can't reply on anyone's profile or mine
3. Can't create any thread or posts.

I am like a lurking guest to them, without the official "Banned" tag under my username.

They are giving me an account that i can't do anything with it, might as well ban it and say to the public that they are crazy hypocrites :0) Seriously grow up. Are you really that intimated that you have to stalk this thread and take action on Xenforo.



At least here i am pointing out few facts instead of simply bashing like you allow on XF :

here's a fact, vbulletin is a slow ugly cheaply coded pile of crap I never want to see again. I used it for a decade. How can xenforo be behind, apart from sales? I don't consider SEO mods, or any mods, for that matter as something I judge the core product on.