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Originally Posted by BirdOPrey5

Large sites, and sites like vBulletin.org likely have staff capable of fixing security holes themselves and do not require patches from vBulletin. Obviously if you have a capable PHP/vBulletin coder on staff and can fix your own security exploits it's not as critical- but for most- it is.

3.8.8 Beta is as stable as any other version. I myself will be upgrading to 3.8.8 Beta once Beta 3 is released. It's time.

Of course, me too. I wasn't arguing against that. The meter from the OP was, "upgrading" to vB4 from vB 3.8. I strongly advise folks merely to think about it really hard, take their time making such a decision, ask themselves what is the compelling reason, and research it before doing so. And wish them luck if they do. I'm sure as hell never doing it.