[katie hunter]

Originally Posted by cellarius

You have some points.


Agreed, that's missing. But there's a great addon that offers better functionality than vB.


For that, I honestly don't care. This is a setup once and forget functionality. Doesn't bother me at all.


Given the state of blogs and articles of vB4, I consider them unusable for me. So this really is feature parity for me. And what I have read about CMS implementation in vB5 leaves me seriously underwhelmed, too. On the other hand, I could say: Does vB3 or 4 have a ressource manager (capable of being used for quite more than managing ressources)?


Multiquote is in the making.


You mean the functionality vB deemed so importand it removed it from vB5?


Given vB5 has not even 50 modifications after a full year this is really not a point vB can make. And yes, xF has lots of very good quality free addons, and 1095 addons at the moment in the ressource manager overall.


That, sorry, sounds like a quite lame excuse given the bug record of vB4. Most of the code was from vB3, which was virtually bug free, but still vB4 managed to introduce a gazilliion of bugs, many of which are still unresolved.

At least for me, stability and future are key aspects. vB4 will soon no longer be usable, given there won't be much development and IB's lagging when it comes to adapting to new technology (IE versions, PHP versions...). In the end, vB5 is vB4's future, and that's just a too horrible perspective to even remotely contemplate it.


Well, there's xF-functionality I really miss in vB, too. WebDAV template editing, for example, or Private Conversations, which are so much more versatile than PMs in vB, or AdminCP search, or a working and worthwile notification system, or @Username tagging. And, as I pointed out, xF has one absolute key feature for me over vB: future, and reliable, stability oriented development as opposed to the cash grab stunts IB pulled with vB4 and vB5.

Yet all this is my personal preference. I just sometimes feel people have taken a look at xF when it came out, then never cared to follow the releases after.

You speculate so much to defend Xenforo. You're making it sound like VB will close and Xenforo will live which doesn't make any sense and the cash grab about IB, Xenforo is there for business and money as well. It is hypocrite when we say VB is all about money and Xenforo isn't.

For me no matter how i look at these statements or similar, i can't join the bandwagon and say Xenforo is better, XF is missing a many features and it is not that great currently other than being light and having good SEO aspect. It needs 3 - 4 years to shine and see what it is all about, then we can make judgement.

You don't know the future of VB and you don't know if IB will hire new developers to increase their staff. You don't know how VB will expend but I am expecting that VB might take a future approach into becoming something more than a forum but rather something closer to social network, more profile options and features. The goal of forums is to create a community and try to connect your members with each other in the easiest way possible, inspired by Tweeter and FB features. If IB is smart, they would take this approach as something fresh and new, by thinking outside the box.

For Xenforo, they need at least 3 years to have all the features that vb has, bug free as well, then they can start to expend on more ideas. Seeing as it is now, they are choosing the quickest and easy way in term of features and relaying on developers to create some of Vb default features in order to push forward their product.

For ex https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....1&postcount=54

Why should i buy something that is missing but available on VB core features. So many of vb default features XF don't have, Xenforo software will cost me if i want to cover every vb default feature that is missing. It doesn't make any sense.

At the end of the day, truth be told VB is better than Xenforo at the moment and that is the cloudy truth, the hype about XF and joining the bandwagon is foreshadowing these facts. And when i say better i am referring to vb 4.x. It will take few years for vb 5.x to become more stable and feature rich and only then we can compare and contrast between VB 5.x and Xenforo.

The one thing i hate about VB though is how ravage they keep changing the system and core coding that it forces me to lose my current addon and custom skins, and I would need to invest several times to get them back. That is not fun especially when support gets discontinued.