[Digital Jedi]

Originally Posted by JacquiiDesigns

I appreciate your response, but honestly, you make it seem as if vB.org is a hobbiest property. vB.org is not a hobbiest property, it is the official mod community of the vBulletin script. As such, I believe it should be running (flaunting as it should be called) the latest, greatest version of the software.

Unfortunately, it's my opinion that the latest, greatest version of vBulletin is 3.8.7 --- vB.org is running 3.6.x ---- If I were the proud owner of the vBulletin script, I'd have done either:

1. Instead of investing huge capital in a most bogus lawsuit -- whose purpose it seems was to wear down the competition -- spend that huge capital investing into vB.org - an official representative of vBulletin, the script.

2. Lawsuit aside. Invest in your official property. I'd have placed some of my contracted developers on vB.org - tasking them with upgrading the site from head to toe.

What I wouldn't do - is continually make excuses of how great vB.org works as-is.

And to answer your question DJ - Who could make all the changes, preparing the upgrade? Well... Paid IB developers of course, because again, vB.org is not a hobbiest property. It's a property which needs investing. And though the functionality is lovely for 3.6 series, the look is old & tired. Yeah - I'd invest immediately!

Hope this makes sense. And yeah - I know - Hate to keep beating a dead horse... But sometimes a dead horse just needs to be beat or at minimum - lathered up, cleaned and prepared for viewing :P LOL

J.

Kinda of a misplaced argument, though. We can't expect the website's staff to have any control over where corporate decides to spend the money. And we are talking about a website that exists for the sole reason that none of it's content is officially supported. For all intents and purposes, this site really only exists as a courtesy left over from the old owners, and because there are those of us who still support it. I highly doubt IB considers it such a high priority that they're going to invest dollars into developers to completely rebuild a website of unsupported add-ons (a task likely comparable to building the software from scratch), go through the equally time-consuming process of fixing the bugs after the fact, (as people seem to found of pointing out vB's flaws in that regard) especially when they already have one that already works. And works really, really well. If anything, the fact that vB.org hasn't upgraded in a quite some time is a cautionary tale to admins. You make a lot of modifications to your site, and upgrading is going to be a problem. As fellow admins, we should both be intimately aware of that.

There are many kinds of websites besides hobbyist and business types. It's not either/or. vB.org working as-is is a fact, not an excuse. An excuse is something you make when you don't want to do something, but could. As I recall, the staff here isn't paid. So asking them to do something, when I'm willing to bet they've got way more pressing things to do, doesn't really need to be excused.

If there were some glaring flaw, some inexcusable errors that made using the site unbearable, or at the very least, annoying, I'd be with you. But so far the only reasons people have given for investing extra money, time and development is because of appearances. Not really a good enough excuse.