[Max Taxable]

Originally Posted by Deriggs007

You keep zoning in on some text in my posts and aren't trying to understand what I'm saying.. let me rephrase -- vBulletin stock is a very secure product (outside of the spam fest......) when you add products, it's less secure -- like should be any other management system. HOWEVER, even the free CMS's out there like Joomla/Wordpress are more secure than vBulletin with mods installed and just as secure without them.

It's how all these plugins work and how they're submitted and how they're installed/mounted vs's how it's done in vBulletin -- It's simply less secure

The bolded IS what I was saying. We have no disagreement there.

I have years of experience with Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal, I don't need google to tell me about the security on those. I personally know several incidents where these were defaced or "hacked." Wordpress used to be one of the worst, still is.

The problem with vBulletin is the sheer VOLUME of add-ons, plugins, skins and etc, and alot of them are from less than trustworthy sources. Alot of them have purposeful exploits coded in them.

It's the HUMANS who screw up native vBulletin, we agree.