[Deriggs007]

Originally Posted by Max Taxable

Most of them have such a small percentage of installations it's not worth the "hackers'" time to mess with. vBulletin is targeted because it's very popular.

But I am well aware some free open source CMS such as wordpress, Joomla, Mambo, get "hacked" all the time.

Again, native vBulletin isn't the problem, it is very secure. It's when owners/admins corrupt it with add-ons, alternative skins and plugins is where the security holes start.

So, Joomla, Wordpress, Drupal and other "FREE" CMS's are not as popular as vBulletin and are hackable stock installations? Google will tell you otherwise

Google will also tell you that mods/plugins don't deprive or make it easier to hack, either. Thanks to how they're submitted to the user base on their websites and the review processes.

vBulletin, you're right -- Out of the box it's great. When you start adding all the applications, it's worse UNLIKE others

I mean, isnt' the obvious spam issues good enough proof that shows how bad it is at stopping spam registrations? "oh there is a plugin for that"

You keep zoning in on some text in my posts and aren't trying to understand what I'm saying.. let me rephrase -- vBulletin stock is a very secure product (outside of the spam fest......) when you add products, it's less secure -- like should be any other management system. HOWEVER, even the free CMS's out there like Joomla/Wordpress are more secure than vBulletin with mods installed and just as secure without them.

It's how all these plugins work and how they're submitted and how they're installed/mounted vs's how it's done in vBulletin -- It's simply less secure