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Originally Posted by New Joe

So what should the average guy do when a Skin guy says he won't start the Skin without money up front?

Either don't do the deal or don't give them more money then you would risk gambling because that is what you are doing, gambling.

No one is forcing you to use a particular designer or even a custom designer at all.

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