[wilford brimley]

I hid it and its better. still would like the threads numbers to be equal (same visible level) as the "new thread button"

to hide it go to FORUMDISPLAY on your MASTER STYLE (need debug mode on o edit master style)

find

<div id="pagetitle" class="pagetitle">
	<h1>{vb:rawphrase forum}: <span class="forumtitle">{vb:raw foruminfo.title}</span></h1>
	<vb:if condition="$foruminfo['description']"><p class="description">{vb:raw foruminfo.description}</p></vb:if>
</div>

change to

<div id="pagetitle" class="pagetitle" style="visibility:hidden">
	<h1>{vb:rawphrase forum}: <span class="forumtitle">{vb:raw foruminfo.title}</span></h1>
	<vb:if condition="$foruminfo['description']"><p class="description">{vb:raw foruminfo.description}</p></vb:if>
</div>

if you change it to style="display: none" it goes away the way you would like it. but it messes up the threadcount box now it flows over the threads. i need to figure how to move that up like 15 pixels and its alll good.