[Princeton]

The problem is you will NEVER find a system that will fit all your needs.

Last year, I was ready to jump ship but noticed a change in focus at vbulletin. It was a change for the better.

Today, vbulletin 4 is a whole lot better than it was when it was first released. Is it perfect? No, but neither are any of the other systems available on the net.

vBulletin 4 is still bloated but I'm not afraid to edit files, remove features, etc.

I know my needs are different from you and that guy over there.
Personally, all I want is a great engine that we can extend.

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Too many people today rely on a "plugin system" for extensibility - they want the system to be and do everything for them.

They want a disabled button for every option available to them and their members.

This will never happen. In fact, I think the future will be about less features/options.

Many people will find that hard to believe but I'll put money on it.

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If you want something your way...
Don't rely on the plugin system to satisfy your needs.

Don't be afraid to edit files ... remove features ... etc.

You waste more time, effort, and money by waiting around for a system that fits ALL your needs.