Oh yea I have firebug and it is quite useful, and I can get the layout semi correct in firebug. I guess the problem I am having is finding the correct things to edit inside of VB. I know I have to set a width on navbar, and margin left and right set to auto. This will center the top bar. Same thing with the links that show up under the navbar. But when searching in templates I cannot really find the correct css sheet to edit.
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