[borbole]

Originally Posted by Wordplay

is it true that xenforo and ipb are so much more active?

@borbole, since you have only been a member for a year i would like to circle out the fact that it would seem impossible for you to relate to how it "used to be".

let me try to make your other points a little more invalid as well.

i have been a member here for years, posted a 4 paid requests in my lifetime. all 3 i posted before 2010, filled up by inbox with more than 10 different coders wishing to take on the project., regardless of how big or small it was the one i posted a week ago got me 1 real coder to offer me his services.

secondly, i did do my search found a lot of threads were people were asking other questions regarding the same topic i had 2 questions on, sadly non asked my question, so instead of hijacking someone elses thread (which i was sure wasn't going to get me any replies considering the inactivity of the board), i started a new thread, 2 never before seen questions, and still no answer.

i'm not placing any blame on the vbulletin.org staff, or anyone else for that matter. i mean if some many migrated away from vbulletin there must be various reasons for that. such as stated before, with facebook, myspace, twitter, youtube, etc, a lot of people no longer have the time to run around forums. luckily i have another solid forum idea i'm sure will take off.

my only disappointment here is that i chose vbulletin for this project rather than look into it's competition first. if it is really doing much better, i'm sure there is a reason for it. if it does have more coders lurking around it's forum, for example, that would be enough reason for me.

You are right that I don''t know how it was here before, but I guess that mybe the other coders and those who provided support put up with the selfishness and the ungratitude that they got in return for their efforst and now they are fed up with it. I will speak for myself, I used to be very active here in way of pruducing mods and giving support. But after a while after I saw that my efforts were not appreciated, I had more than enough of it.

I will give you a few examples. Look at My mod thread here. I extended a mod with an extra feature and placed the download link to my forum, for free. One had to register only to download it. Look at this user''s post demanding that I put the extending version here as well as he couldn''t be bothered to register at my forum.

Please read this post and a few others that follow.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....0&postcount=23

Or at my other mod.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showpost....6&postcount=34

As if it is not enough that they get the mods for free but they have to moan and complain and demand all kind of new features that they like without a single regard to the fact that all the mod authors here do this on their foree time.

Or here, one this user doesn''t bother to respond if the solution I posted for him worked or not.

https://vborg.vbsupport.ru/showthread.php?t=257913

But when someone doesn''t get an answer to their support questions and threads for a few minutes they are very quick to yell how bad the support is here and what not.

Maybe other persons who provide support here and create modifications don''t mind that other users don''t appreciate their time and work, or maybe they are used to it or whatever. But not me. Where I come from we are used to be appreciative of others time and efforts that they put in for things that help and benefit us. And it is the same for the other way around.

Originally Posted by Alfa1

While you are certainly right in the respect that people often show too little effort, it does not help that modification discussions are just 1 thread to handle bug reports, feature requests, questions about tweaking the mod, problems & answers, etc. And some answers reside in the thread that relates to another vb version.
Some threads have thousands of replies and have been read over a million times. This makes it virtually impossible to keep up with all information in a modification thread. Its madness to do that.
So while people should definitely throw in some effort to research, the infrastructure to find things with relative ease is missing.

It doesn''t matter how easy or not the information is to find. Most of them just won''t use the search feature. They simply want others to do the work for them.

If you would look at my posting history, you will see that I have never asked a single support question here. And believe me, I had like a zillion questions. But I searched and searched until I found what I needed to know. And the information is there, very easy to find if one really wants to do that and put a little effort.