[garyopa]

Originally Posted by Dave Hybrid

Load, page speed times and crawl page times are even worse while the cache is being built, all these stats are from a fully cached translation database, so being pulled from mysql, no writing. Broken links includes the breadcrumbs linking to pages that don exist, clone/duplicate pages being generated with bizarre query strings as urls. Similar threads disappearing and being posted in the post content instead of the actuall post text, all sorts. Also, when checking many thousands of pages in the cache of google and bing finding pages being cut off, so only being indexed upto post 5 of a 20 post thread, footers missing, all sorts. This is because the bots dont crawl like a browser and the bots generate pages with errors, the issue is if the bot is first to the page, it is translated wrong and then every user that accesses it sees the bad generation from cache. I could go on, basically for any serious SEO it is a wild goose, you have no way of controlling it, it messes with too much. I like control, without this mod my site code is 100% perfect, with it im constantly chasing bugs. IMO those that havent seen these serious SEO bugs are thos that have not properly searched for them or dont know how to spot them, no offence. They are not always obvious. Seriously uninstall for just a few days and check all your stats, you'd be amazed. I'd been running it so long i thought these high figures were normal. I tried vbo, CDN, new servers everything and all it took was to remove this to get all the metrics reporting desirable results.

Wow! -- What a list of problems.

Personally I have not had any problems with VBET, I bought the paid version, and installed it along with my licenese VBSEO and VBAdvanced and Vbulletin v3.8.6 and the only thing I had to uninstall was the sitemap, I could not get it to work.

Yes, I was a pain to edit a couple of the VBSEO files and get the .htaccess just right, in fact the included docs on VBET is not totally right, I read almost ever post on VBET own forums, and was able to piece together a couple major changes I needed, mainly because of my usage of VBSEO and VBAdvanced.

But afterwards it is running smooth, and at worse maybe 1% more cpu power, and I have a very active forum with over 10,000 users at anyone time posting new posts, and over 1million hits per day of just plain guests lurking and browsing the forums.

As for increased traffic VBET helped my overall worldwide ranking to go down, but since I already clocking in $5,000 a month in adsense, I didn't notice any increase in money from the extra traffic, but I do have some very happy new members from spain, france, germany, dutch, and even perisan that love the auto-translation figure, and my previous half million english only forum members have not had one complaint about the new posts or setup.

I am of course running a very powerful server, is it totally dedi. rack with dual 24 core servers, one for the mysql and the other for www, with alot of custom settings in the mysql and php, fast-cgi, along with eaccelator, memcache, apc (alot tho, memcache I turned off), and tons of ram 32gigs. -- RAM IS VERY IMPORTANT!

I been in the web hosting business since before it existed, and started with running Delphi and later Genie (the big dial-in mainframes) and I see nothing wrong with VBET, except it is not supported by VBSEO (because of the file edits), but hard to get around that when you have two packages wanting to re-write URL's on the fly.

Support on the other hand with VBET is not so good, they are quick to close of support threads, and not fast on repling, so unless you are 1,000% expert in editing and running a dedi. server I would not recommend jumping into the frying pan on this one.

One thing is for sure, you must enable just a few languages at first if you have a very large forum, I enabled about dozen per week, until everything got cached and converted, and be prepared to have tons of free hdd space, once a heavy forum like mine got all 52 langs. going, we had an SQL that was almost 100 gigs in size so far!

Oh'yeah, one thing I forgot is the FULL FILE CACHE for GUESTS is not perfect, I found it better to leave it off, and just use the normal database grabbing for guests.