[Jack12]

Originally Posted by djnoz

I agree that CSS and divs, etc. are the new way of doing things but tables have worked well for forums for a very long time. Even though you say you've had no trouble with it, it is still a lot more work than vB3.

I have firebug too, one of the biggest problems I found was the way the CSS gets munged into a single file (style.php) or a small number of files (x-rollup.css) by the new vBulletin. Once you've identified lines of CSS code you want to change in Firebug, it's hard to identify the template that needs changing, it would be really nice if there was a special mode which includes each CSS template as a seperate file, for development purposes, but of course they haven't thought about that.

And seriously, additional.css is the messiest thing ever. We are told to override existing CSS, i.e. hack innefficiently. We should be changing the CSS at the source, and there should be an easy way to do it.

You could just go in and change up all the code but I prefer additional.css so I can track all the coding changes I have made.

I never said it was easier than vb3, but you (or atleast I) can still achieve desirable results with a bit of work. It takes me a day or 2 to pop out a nice looking theme.

The best way to use firebug and find the code is to copy the class or id name you want to make changes to, go to the vbulletin templates menu and select search in templates.

It will bring you up a list of templates which include the class name, you look in the CSS section of templates and from there you should be able to fairly easily find the template you need to edit.