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Originally Posted by Jack12

Tables are dead and gone and they have been for ages. CSS is more customizable, SEO friendly and the standard for web design. If vbulletin went back to basing the design on tables I'd never buy another license.

I don't have problems customising the look of vbulletin4. Many changes can be made in the stylevar system and others just require the use of the search in templates function and additional.css template in conjunction with something like firebug (google it) to find what you need to edit.

I agree that CSS and divs, etc. are the new way of doing things but tables have worked well for forums for a very long time. Even though you say you've had no trouble with it, it is still a lot more work than vB3.

I have firebug too, one of the biggest problems I found was the way the CSS gets munged into a single file (style.php) or a small number of files (x-rollup.css) by the new vBulletin. Once you've identified lines of CSS code you want to change in Firebug, it's hard to identify the template that needs changing, it would be really nice if there was a special mode which includes each CSS template as a seperate file, for development purposes, but of course they haven't thought about that.

And seriously, additional.css is the messiest thing ever. We are told to override existing CSS, i.e. hack innefficiently. We should be changing the CSS at the source, and there should be an easy way to do it.