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Originally Posted by theFM

hehehe , i will say ... they already have done a nice job for the skin.... rather the default skin of Xen is much better than default of vb , we may customize everything , thats not a matter of concern

The Matter of Concern are : -

Too much of JavaScript usage
Too much of animation tags usage
Really i don't see a Proper CMS , in Action , vb4 had a bad , BUT HAD A CMS to Use
The Use of Widgets are Unavilable
No Additional Feature which will make It a bit different from vbulletin 3/4 ... really to say
No Image Gallery
No SEO Optimisation or use of Chronical URls
No Preset Sitemap Present
No Tagging Option prsent
No FaceBook/Tweeter Integration Feature Like that of vb4
......... these are only a few features

FOR These to develop a be a "vBulletin Killer" .... will take a minimum of 3 - 4 years may be much more remember vbulletin is what you see have done 7 - 8 Years of complete work . and now it is the best in it's market

I will only welcome Xenforo as a Competitive that Kier has made it , and now we will witness a new vb5 , Completely New System , much Simpler and Super ..... thats why i welcome Xen so that vb will now be greater than that

No SEO optimization? Clearly you don't what you're talking about. XenForo is SEO'd out of the box. In fact it's SEO'd so well that there's really no need for an external plugin like vBSEO or similar. That's something I can't say about vBulletin, even the 4.x series, embarrassingly.

I mean if you can shed light on how you came to that conclusion I'd like to know. Because as a developer, I see: use of H1 title tags, semantically correct layout structure, auto generated meta description, and canonical URLs with 301 redirects.

So if you can explain how XF is not SEO'd properly then perhaps I will take your opinion seriously

Originally Posted by latch

Maybe if you actually read what you are posting, you would see how you are mis-leading people. Anyways, the only people I actually see using XenForo is new communities or Kier fans.

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Well, I'm done talking in this thread.

P.S. If you are so dissatisfied with vBulletin, stop using it.

I'm not standing beside XF just because of Kier. I've been with vB for (7+! years) since the 2.x series. Fact of the matter is vB has slipped up as of late, quality control has gone down. The latest 3.8.x security exploit is a prime example. These factors are what prompted my decision to switch, and because of the potential XF offers.

BTW I see tons of active devs on the XF forums, many of them eager to start developing plugins for XF. The script has tons of potential - as others h ave pointed out of the reasons why is that it's not "weighed down" by old technology. vBulletin has been in dire need of a rewrite, while XF uses an entirely new codebase, designed for modern tech. Sure, it may not be "all there" yet in terms of a feature-set but that's the least my worries. You need to look at it with an open mind. From what I've seen so far, Kier seems intent on developing this software with performance, usability, and scalability. That makes me really excited. vB on the other hand is scrambling to fix bugs with each new release, oftentimes breaking other functionality in the process. The state of vB is a real drag right now. Maybe it will pick up in due time. But I'm not willing to wait. The 4.x series still has yet to reach the quality and polish of 3.8.x, six months later..