[DragonByte Tech]

Originally Posted by djbaxter

I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from misrepresenting what I've said.



Not at all. Perhaps it's a language barrier thing but if you re-read what I posted my complaint is in the bait-and-switch strategy,



Please show me where I stated that I or anyone else is "entitled" to something free. What you are doing is providing a "free modification" and then littering the thread with promotions for the paid product. That's my primary objection.



Precisely. You were the one who said earlier it was not about money. I'm simply pointing out that in fact that's BS.



I don't object to anyone making money for decent products or services. I object to the use of the vBulletin.org peer community to push commercial products disguised as free add-ons.



Absolutely. For anyone who missed it, the clarification is this: DBTech is a commercial operation. Nothing at all wrong with that. However, they are promoting their products all over the vb.prg forums in a bait-and-switch manner which is underhanded and obnoxious. There's a lot wrong with that.

Just so I have your objections correct and there's no language barrier interfering:

You're saying that us providing free modifications is a bad thing, because we also provide paid versions?

Please show me where I stated that I or anyone else is "entitled" to something free. What you are doing is providing a "free modification" and then littering the thread with promotions for the paid product. That's my primary objection.

So, simply because there are pro versions of our products, and we let people know this, you think no one at vb.org should get to download/use the free versions either?

Pretty sure most people would disagree with you there.

Still, since thats your stance, you're more than welcome not to use any of our free products to improve your board - this resolves your problem =)

I don't object to anyone making money for decent products or services. I object to the use of the vBulletin.org peer community to push commercial products disguised as free add-ons.

There is no "disguising", there are no prompts to buy the pro versions in the product, no features installed with a "you cannot use with without pro" notice... Many people switch to our free mods from others because they do the same or more, and any bugs get fixed instantly, unlike with other mods.

So what you are saying is that even though our free mods are as good as, or better than, the competition, that thery're somehow a scam? Give me a break.


I hate to be the one to break it to you, but vbulletin.org was not designed around what you want. Everything we do is well within the rules. I'm sorry that vb.org isn't the exact website run the exact way you want it to be. Perhaps you should find another website that is instead of harassing people who give people things for free on this one?

Iain