[djbaxter]

I'd appreciate it if you'd refrain from misrepresenting what I've said.

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech

As far as I can see your complaint seems to be that the pro version does something you want, but you don't want to pay for it.

Not at all. Perhaps it's a language barrier thing but if you re-read what I posted my complaint is in the bait-and-switch strategy,

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech

I'm sorry but you're not *entitled* to anything for free. No one is forcing you to stop using abe's mod, we are not shoving this down your throat. We are here providing a free modification which does exactly what it is intended to, bug free as far as we are aware.

Please show me where I stated that I or anyone else is "entitled" to something free. What you are doing is providing a "free modification" and then littering the thread with promotions for the paid product. That's my primary objection.

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech

Your argument of "if you're not in it for the money give us it for free" doesn't really hold water. If we were to go by your logic we would simply release everything for free. Then this would be nothing more than a hobby and we wouldn't be able to put the time and resources into making the products as well as we do.

Precisely. You were the one who said earlier it was not about money. I'm simply pointing out that in fact that's BS.

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech

I'm sorry you feel that us asking for money from you for something you want is somehow despicable, but I have to disagree with you there.

Just because you want something and you have to pay for it, doesn't somehow make the person charging you a bad guy, and it baffles me that any mature person could hold that attitude.

Just want to add that i personally know quite a few coders who have left vb.org, and almost all of them have named ungrateful users as the reason. Complaining that something you're getting for free doesn't include MORE stuff for free? I'd say thats both rude and unreasonable personally.

I don't object to anyone making money for decent products or services. I object to the use of the vBulletin.org peer community to push commercial products disguised as free add-ons.

Originally Posted by DragonByte Tech

Hope that clears up my personal feelings on the matter,

Iain.

Absolutely. For anyone who missed it, the clarification is this: DBTech is a commercial operation. Nothing at all wrong with that. However, they are promoting their products all over the vb.prg forums in a bait-and-switch manner which is underhanded and obnoxious. There's a lot wrong with that.