[alaska_av8r]

I have never even considered that, I will have to try that tonight. I read last night about folder permissions and through cpanel looked at the permissions for the download folder, drwxr-xr-x if that makes any sense, I also wondered about the link I was posting in the forums, since folks go to the public html folder to the index file when they type my IP addy, it got me to thinking that the IP leads them to inside that folder while the download folder is outside of it. Do I need some code to denote that the file is up to the root level then point into downloads? I am familiar with absolute links vs relative links but this seems different.