[jiffylb1]

so instead of me thinking <br></br>
for a second row it is bwteen <tr></tr>
so iassume tr stands then for another table row?
Thanks for your help I will work on it now ..
another question for you I ahve not the same nav bar on the portal from portal.org as in the forum is there away to place same nav bar on portal also as in the forum?

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I added those 2 lines below and got all the text center also on the buttons and you text helped me to get started thanks a:up:gain

<!-- Second row of stuff here -->
<table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="100%" align="center">
<tr align="center">