[Wilfred1]

Thanks Lynne - I won't even consider impex now so a big thanks.

This is going to be a big mess, my site has over 500 tables in the db and I can see me having bits of data left here and there not to mention the down time I will have which isn't good in a competitive environment.

I will have to create the entire site in a test environment then when going live do all the upgrades again and manually copy and paste every setting, every template change, every graphic, every css change, etc etc etc and that will be not only for vb but for every addon, every 3rd party app, every mod etc - and users won't be happy.

Not everyone just has a website of a vb forum, but like me vb is just a component yet integral backbone of an "entire website" that has been built up as a complete solution having everything integrated using a lot of vb functionality.