[NLP-er]

Originally Posted by imported_silkroad

Hahahaha. No you don't !! (Sorry, I have been out with friends eating Italian food and drinking nice wine !! )

The email you provided does not say "include logo" and the TOS does not say include logo. It is not necessary to make people afraid over something very small! Be factual !! Also, sorry to tell you, is not necessary to be a "lawyer" as you said, to understand the Google TOS. The TOS is very clear. No logo is required. This is easy to see. What is NOT clear is your email, which says things about the Google TOS that are not in the TOS nor in Google's email you posted.

Protecting people is not the same as spreading "fear, uncertainty, and doubt" .. as I said. Be factual. Post facts. There are no secrets about the Google TOS.

AND, regarding one user being "blocked' .... we have no exact reason they were blocked. There are many reasons that Google can block a user, and without posting the exact reason, you need to be careful not to simple give misinformation, fear, uncertainty and doubt, without facts that do not match the TOS. Hahahaha. Where is the exact reason?? It certainly was not because of a logo or "Powered by Google" .. the forum you are talking about must have done something else seriously wrong !

So far, we have read nothing from the Google TOS or from your email (posting from the forum) that confirms the each reason one of your users was blocked. Maybe they broken many other TOS? Maybe they did many things wrong. It has nothing to do with logos, etc. It is not necessary to go beyond the Google TOS. Google does not block good forums doing "good things"..... Google's philosophy is "Do No Harm"...

Please post the exact reason one user was blocked, according to Google.

Anyway, you say you are "protecting people" but that means you must also be precise, factual and actual about the Google TOS. Posting emotional fear, uncertainty and doubt is not good for anyone.

So far, there are very little fact here....

Anyway, nevermind... if you want to be the mother goose of users and spread fear without fact, that is your right. I hope you will be more accurate about these things. The Google TOS did not change. The fact are not clear why your user forum was blocked. The email you posted said nothing new or unknown.

In my opinion you choose to ignore all quotes which I gave you directly form Google pages. So to remind you:
http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...l#_intro_fonje
"Applications MUST always include a valid and accurate http referer header in their requests."

http://code.google.com/intl/pl-PL/ap...tion/#Branding
"it is important to communicate the Google brand to your users"
And it appears to be important enough to get info from google about this:

Originally Posted by Google

I appreciated that you've included a note at the bottom that translations are powered by Google, but you should also include "Powered by Google" branding on every page that includes translations from the API

The men gave the link to branding description. And as you can see on page about branding there is link which shows how looks branding from the API - it shows Google logo. And if you read carefully what the man said - on page WAS INCLUDED "Powered By Google" string, but it appears not enough and the men told that there should be "Powered by Google" BRANDING - which is described under the link and which shows Google logo.

So there is no information which I gave and has no coverage in reality. In fact - the reality triggers it. And the reality is that one page was banned/blocked. And as you wrote we do not know exact reason of banning/bocking, but we know that ALL things which I described was considered relevant during unbanning/unblocking procedure so each one of those could be also an reason and if not - still was necessary for unbanning/unblocking.

I understand that you would made other choices with your users. I made my and I'm strongly convinced that it is really good choice - to give my users best solution as fast as possible which will remove from theme banning/blocking threat.

You have full right to think whatever you want about it and also to give your suggestions for future which are appreciated.
Still if you ask questions, then please accept answers, especially when answers are straight from Google, instead of ignoring those and repeat over and over that there was no reason. I understand that you could see no reason, but You was asking about my reasons of my actions and those where already given to you. I see nothing more to tell in this topic. All sources you have included. There is no more.

Great thanks for your advices - I really appreciate it as those come from man who has lot of experience in this area. I totally agree that making people feel fear is not good, but I (I I I) saw real threat here and made MY actions to make my users rally feel safe with new release. I hope that thanks that users can trust to this product as one which takes care about them.

Thanks and enjoy