I would try it out if I could, since my vb3 license hasn't expired yet, but it doesn't look like I have access to download the beta. Can anyone confirm that you need to have pre-ordered vb4 to get the beta? I definitely don't want to pay extra money for the vB4 license at this time, since vB4 seems like an identical copy of vb3 with a re-worked backend and templating system. My site currently has over 100 modifications, some of them custom, and I don't think a conversion to vB4 would be possible without data & feature loss