[KTBleeding]

Yeah, the immature side of me only wants to post, "lol @ vb4", but the paying customer side of me wants to express how disappointing this is.

What's new? Tableless markup? Bravo, you're about six years too late, and the markup isn't anything to be excited about anyways. Two divs wrapping a ul just to display a bread crumb? Divs wrapping around heading tags? This excessive and unnecessary work is amateur at best. Creating a tableless layout is FAR more than just replacing your table tags with divs and spans, which it pretty much looks like is what happened. Who uses <hr />'s anymore? Seriously?

Okay, so that's me being picky, right? I guess.. I know one things for sure, it ticks me off that I've spend hundreds of dollars towards vBulletin when I've been much happier with other solutions that are : drumroll : open source. Doesn't that seem a bit backwards to you?

The design? It's awful. Terrible use of whitespace, terrible use of contrast, and SOOO many pointless features are being displayed. TONS of clutter.. You really need to see all of your "Posting Rules" on every bloody page? Didn't you learn ANYTHING from the 3.X series?

There's absolutely nothing that's innovative. This design looks exactly like every other message board does and has for YEARS.. They should have hired a professional design firm, and they should have created a "Skin" that changes the way forums work / look for years to come. Instead, they provided us with the same shit, different platform. What a joke for a commercial product.

Maybe there will be some tiny hope for vB5, but the way this has gone.. I'm skeptical. I don't think I've ever seen this many people upset with the status of vBulletin. What a sad day...

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Originally Posted by SirAdrian

The new style looks more like phpBB.

phpBB at least brought something new to the table.. Something unique. :erm: