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Originally Posted by Morsolo

The problem is, there isn't really any alternatives...

I'm not so sure about IPB; and all the free ones are horrible...

Sure there are, it just depends what you need and how much you're willing to customise.

The free ones aren't as well featured as vB, true, but then vB has a lot of features that a lot of users simply don't need.

I'm willing to bet that if everyone who owned a license looked at what features they need/will ever use, a fair few would realise a free alternative has just the stuff they need.
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From what I saw of vb4 when it was up, the design isn't any better or worse than the default vb3 design, not keen on the tiny menus though. And I looked in on edit options which is a horrible horrible page.

Coupled with the "buy it now, but you can't see it yet" they aren't coming out of this looking professional. But we are still in beta so maybe they'll produce some magic in the coming weeks.

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Originally Posted by EidolonAH

I think they are working really hard to meet us half way with our demands to see v4 before the pre-sale ends, I for one really appreciate their efforts.

That is what they are doing, but they played silly buggers with this pricing "strategy". They shoulda waited until they had something to show at least.