[wolfstream]

Originally Posted by R1lover

Show me where the agreement says that vb is for x amount of time and where it says future versions free for a time any time frame.

If you buy something , the seller is legally bound to stand by the sales description, or contract, no? Of course they are.
All you have to do is upgrade (or extend) your license to see the description which states that you will continue to have access to the members area where you can download future versions of vBulletin, while this is current.

I don't know the exact wording, they will no longer (obviously) allow people to renew over a certain period of time (ie: if you have more than a year on the license left, you have to wit till just under a year) to do it, but as of a few days ago, that's EXACTLy what it said. The same goes for the blog:

This is a one-time fee that provides access to Blog software versions (via the members' area) while the linked vBulletin license remains valid and active.

So, somewhere, IB is planning on royally screwing their customers.

Originally Posted by Tim Skellett

You can see it as me being happy paying for things I won't use, if you like, but that's inaccurate. What I am not happy with is the long extended flame-war about vB; it's a very decent product with a great community and great modification possibilities, for quite a low price compared to other comparable software.

LOW price? Are you kidding me? $200 is a "low price"? For $200, I can get software to run my entire computer, two of them even. Low price?? That's hardly the case

Originally Posted by Tim Skellett

Can you point to some massive price rise in vB which should make me disatisfied and feel like I'm getting a raw deal? So far, it's all only pure speculation, isn't it?

Not speculation at all. If you want to keep your head buried in the sand, that's ok, but it's certainly not speculation. Since IB has taken the product over, they've done nothing but raise prices, fire staff (or cause them to leave) and act unprofessional, tearing the vBulletin name apart. At one time, it was a great name, now it's just garbage, because of IB.

Originally Posted by Tim Skellett

Except of course Windows has never stated ""all future versions of Windows will be free for 10 years", and vBulletin has never stated ""all future versions of vB will be free for 10 years".

You're not understanding the example, and that's just fine. No, you're right, windows has never stated that, but vBulletin HAS. Not in that exact wording, of course, but in the sales contracts that IB/Jelsoft MUST honor.

Originally Posted by Tim Skellett

You cannot blame Microsoft for coming out with Win98, and Win2000, and WinXP, and charging more for them though.

I certainly can, if microsoft said "you get these versions free during your upgrade period", which is exactly what IB has stated.

Originally Posted by JakeS

So... in theory, I wasted my money buying blog & tools?

We don't know that exactly, but the likelyhood is pretty high that, yes, that is the case. We do know that work on external stuff (blog, PT) has ceased, we do NOT know what they plan on doing with those of us dumb enough to believe IB's lies (and yeah I said US, I'm in that group as well).