Thank you link for your advise about using a plugin but unfortunatly i have no clue where to start with creating a plugin, i can istall them without issue but actually making them is another thing.
Thank you Marco for your suggestion to use $threadinfo but im afraid that didnt work.. i got nothing at all.
This is the point im making.. i apreciate what link said about globals and im sure to a select few that may have made alot of sense but to non coders (with little free time to learn) it makes doing the simplest of thing sometimes very tricky and often costing money to get someone else to do it.
Perhaps sometime in the future there might be a way around this for the elderly members