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Originally Posted by Paul M

He was a Drupal fan, simple as that.

Well of course.. and most here are vBulletin fans.. The difference is the guy wasn't talking out of his rear-end. He had personal quirks with vBulletin just as I'm sure a lot of us do.. he was speaking 100% on his personal experience with both softwares, making his points worth reading, and valid.

Originally Posted by Wayne Luke

The rewrite of the Style and Templating System is one of the core focuses of vBulletin 4.

Wayne, I for one appreciate the updates with vB4 and all, but in this case, I feel it's a little irrelevant. The article, and opinions expressed in this thread are solely based on vB3.X series, since that's all we have to work with. You may not intend to, but it seems like you're arguing vB3's issues with vB4.. "Yeah, but vB4 will do this and this and this" (obviously not a direct quote).. I mean, you can sit here all day and tell us what vB4 will bring, but the fact is, until we have that in our hands, all we have is vB3.. And I personally have several quirks with vB3.. We don't need to really get into that though.

The point is, Jelsoft is losing customers because of this. If just ONE customer is able to find an alternative that works better for them, it hurts the company.. Now, I understand you can't please everyone, and keeping ALL customers for life is impossible.. but most of the stuff he's touched in the article is something that I feel could/should have been taken into account way way before vB4... I mean, is Jelsoft just kind of hoping that vB4 will convince those who have moved on to come back? Or do they just simply not care and are more hopeful to future customers?

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I don't think it's very fair to argue this article with something that very very few have actually laid their eyes, let alone their hands on. And perhaps you weren't necessarily arguing the article, more so comments to the article.. I still feel it's a little irrelevant.